He admits that the polarization that has been the rule in the House for the last decade creates obstacles to passing a comprehensive farm bill by late September.

He said committee discussions “were civil; debate was meaningful. I will try to make that happen on the House floor, but we have elements to deal with.”

He still has hope. “We have to have faith in the majority of our colleagues that they will do what’s right for the country.”

Lucas said members of Congress who would like to split up the “three-legged stool,” that is the foundation of the farm bill have not thought through the ramifications of removing any of those three supports — commodities, nutrition and conservation.

“There are reasons we include nutrition in the farm bill.” He said agriculture commodities were able to stand alone in farm bill debates from the 1930s into the 1960s. “But things changed.” He said Jack Kennedy, as president, proposed nutrition aspects of the farm bill that later became the food stamp program under President Lyndon Johnson. Conservation was added later as the third leg of the stool.

Nutrition programs, Lucas said, added urban voters to rural voters to support farm bill proposals. Adding conservation expanded the base even more.

“Now, some folks want to split it up. Some want to kill part of it, but I want a comprehensive farm bill.”